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5.0 out of 5 stars After the learning curve I am never going back.
Hot take. This will be the next PC trend in the wake of RGB lighting and Mechanical keyboards. My wrist thanks me and I feel just as competent gaming with this as I did with my Logitech.Some things I have concluded using Trackballs: - Finger trackballs > Thumb trackballs - You have much more control using your fingers and are provided a larger ball which provides finer control and range of motion.- The experience is akin to combining the best attributes of the trackpad, and the analog stick. - This may sound like a step back but let me explain. An analog stick moves, eases, and stops on a dime. the Trackpad is intuitive, fast and precise, but becomes harder to control when you need to hit a certain pixel point of accuracy. The ball combines the best of both without the drawback- The scroll wheel solution is not entirely perfected... yet - I see several approaches on how to handle the scroll wheel. The first and simplest is keeping the scroll wheel in the usual place if you use a thumb based trackball. This works best but you loose the finger ball advantage I mentioned earlier. So that means you have to come up with something different on the other designs. Kensington Mice have a scroll ring. This is a great idea but has ultimately two underlining problems. First, they patented the daylights out of this. No other brand will be able to use that solution in the name of greed. Second, when gaming the ring can get in the way and cause you to accidentally scroll while gaming if you're not honed in yet. They may pass over time, but I feel it is worth bringing up. In Elecom's case the scroll wheel rests on the thumb AND it tilts for side scrolling too! Ergonomically that makes sense. However if you do a lot of scrolling your thumb will hate you unless you middle click. As a programmer that is not a common luxury for many editors. I work around this by other means, but I would like to share a solution. Simply have a spring load in the scroll wheel so that the scroll wheel behaves like and analog stick. Further back and forth you use the wheel the faster the scroll. This reduces the strain you get from repeated scrolling normally. A simple, but elegant solution.Having listed my overall views on trackballs Let me list my pros and cons to this mouse:Pros: - Fantastic shape, feel and comfort. - Best sensor I have used in any trackball so far. (kensington expert, logitech trackman t-cj12 are the others I have used)- DPI switch is a great tool that I use frequently depending on the application ( I run six monitors so it's great to speed up briefly to move to another monitor and then lower it once I need to get to work in that particular spot.- SO MANY BUTTONS ALL OF WHICH YOU CAN MAP! THANK YOU.cons:- Scroll wheel is better than other similar mice, but still can be improved by making a more fundamental design change (again I strongly suggest substituting with a low profile analog stick instead)- r and fn3 buttons could be better placed. This is the one and only serious blight to this mouse. I have normal sized hands ( read nobody has said to me "hey your hands are Big/Small" ever in my life), and you can clearly see from just the picture itself the buttons are narrow and the mouse itself has lots of unused space they could have used to spread the two out. The followup deft pro mouse Tries to solve this by getting rid of that entirely. I'm guessing because they were trying to make a smaller mouse to accommodate smaller hands, but I personally think the size and shape is just right and only needs to stretch the those two buttons.Having listed all my feedback I am EXTREMELY satisfied with the design, and now am that one weird guy who will tell his friends and family members about how great trackball mice are now. Do yourself a favor and get this mouse.
5.0 out of 5 stars As an MS Trackball Explorer user since The Win98/PS2 days, this is an excellent "replacement"
Quick Summary: MSTE users who don't have an MSTE - get this mouse as it's the closest "replacement" to date. Obviously, if one wants a mouse like the MSTE, then get an MSTE. But even a used MSTE costs a bit and you have to be careful of the cord. If one wants something Less Expensive that closely resembles the MSTE and is also cordless, then this is the best mouse on the scene since the MSTE itself.Update2: Trying to add some slightly better pictures and others that show the MS Trackball Explorer, Logitech Cordless Optical Trackmall, and the smaller Elecom "DEFT" trackball mouse. But some pictures are not loading to the site. Sorry. :(Update1: IMPORTANT NOTE: Waaay down in the comments (the oldest one at the "bottom" should be a link to the Elecom software download page and the English PDF manual. As this mouse is "very new" you *DO* need a more recent Elecom proprietary software to recognize this mouse if you wish to use it's three proprietary function buttons (F1-F3).Long Winded Review===============This new Elecom Fingerball wireless mouse - the M-HT1DRBK - appears to have been released is June 2017 and has been available on Bolo since July 2017. In August I was about to order a second of the smaller Elecom M-DT2DRBKs when I stumbled over this new **larger** "HUGE" mouse and figured it was worth a try. The M-HT1DRBK just arrived and after giving it a ten minute test spin I just ordered two more. No clue if it will take "1-2 months" for the next batch to arrive, or if the price will drop from $85.99, but would say it is certainly worth the investment. FYI: It actually does say "HUGE" on the mouse itself. :)Comparisons to the MSTE (MS Trackball Explorer)======================================1) It has a nice large "red ball" like a certain MSTE we all know and love. In fact, the Elecom ball is slightly BIGGER than the MS one. There were many reviews about the smaller Elecom mouse's "grey ball" having issues, and several people purchased a "blue" M570 ball to swap with the "grey" one. From my quick tryout of this new mouse with it's "red ball", would say that the quality looks to be significantly better than that of the smaller mouse's "grey" one. An excellent improvement.2) This mouse is *MUCH LARGER* than the smaller "grey ball" M-DT2DRBK. Excellent for people with "larger" (aka normal sized) hands.3) It is a bit wider than the MSTE, and Elecom moved one of the three proprietary "Function Buttons" to the right side of the ball. If you use their proprietary software, this would give you "two buttons to the right of the ball" just like the MSTE.4) MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL. This mouse has a PALM REST. As this seems to be an alien concept to most mouse manufacturers I will state it again - this mouse actually has a place for the palm of one's hand to "rest" while using the mouse, so for the first time since the MSTE, there is actually a trackball that not only fit's one's hand, it is actually COMFORTABLE. Plus it doesn't have teeny tiny thumb-killing buttons like a certain L*git*ch Trackman. Wish I could show a decent side-view of the palm rest, but this can also be seen with via the pics on Elecom's web site.5) ??? I would assume that being a wireless device, there may be an occasional "lag" in response times, but cannot say for certain. However there does appear to be a wired version of this mouse as well. It's part number (August 2017) is M-HT1URBK.Usage=====Bulk of this review was written after only ten minutes of mouse use, so haven't had the time to give it an extended run, but observations so far are positive. "Weeks later" - Still great. Haven't tried the Elecom software yet myself (not using the F1-F3 buttons).- Seems to respond MUCH better than the smaller Elecom version (blue or grey ball).- Range seems to be about the same as the smaller one. About nine feet out it gets tricky and Line of Sight is critical.- The "left" button isn't as "tall" as the MSTE's, so my clumsy thumb is hitting the wheel, but this should be a minor issue.- ??? I read elsewhere that the "left" and "right" mouse buttons are "better quality" than the other buttons, that one should be able to tell the difference, that they should have made *all" the buttons "better quality", etc. Haven't noticed any difference between buttons yet. Too busy enjoying having a wireless mouse that actually fits the shape of my hand for a change.Customization - aka The Buttons========================So far as remapping buttons, "drivers", and support for various operating systems... Would assume this mouse works as a basic mouse in anything from XP up to Win10. You've got your Left, Right, Forward, Back and Wheel Buttons, plus the three Extra Proprietary Function Buttons F1-F3. Remapping the eight buttons and basic customization is where it gets interesting. Would assume one needs at least version 5.1.0 of Elecom's proprietary software to use/control all eight buttons. For now I am sticking with X-Mouse Button Control which allows configuration of everything except the three extra Function Buttons. Both programs allow for the use of multiple profiles for easy customization across different applications. Elecom's software (and English PDF manual) is available from their website. I will try adding possible links as a "comment" later as this review is too long as it is.Odd Future Issue (?)================Since the palm-rest is made of a "soft" material vs plastic, I wonder how it might hold up over time. Will it wear out? Time will tell.
Je recommande ce produit
J'ai testé plusieurs souris ergonomique que ce soit chez Logitech (Mx Master 3, Mx Ergo, Lift), mais aussi des souris qu'on appelle pointeur central (Ergo Slider plus et Mousetrapper Prime) ; mais la meilleure reste la ELECOM M-HT1DRBK.Certes, il faut s'habituer au changement des clics gauche et droite mais une fois qu'on a pris le coup de main c'est très agréable.Le gros plus de cette souris est qu'on peut ajouter des macros à chaque touche pour chaque application que l'on utilise. Et c'est la première souris pour laquelle on peut programmer autant de boutons (8 par application). On ne bouge pas le poignet donc on évite bien des douleurs style tendinite de la souris à faire des mouvements répétitifs.Le point négatif si on peut dire qu'il est négatif, est que l'application est soit en japonnais soit en anglais mais bon, on s'habitue très vite. Il faut chercher un peu pour la configuration des macros car elle est moins intuive que chez Logitech avec le logiciel Options Plus. Il faut aller chercher l'exécutable de l'application pour configurer la macro. Mais une fois qu'on a compris le fonctionnement et où sont les exécutables dans l'explorateur de fichiers du PC, c'est assez simple.Pour ma part, après avoir testé cette souris durant plusieurs mois, j'ai décidé de m'en acheter une seconde pour en avoir une pour l'agence et une pour le télétravail étant donné qu'elle est assez imposante, elle tient beaucoup de place dans un sac même si j'ai acheté une housse pour la protéger.En résumé, je vous recommande cette souris pour celles et ceux qui ont des douleurs aux poignets car elle facilite grandement le travail bureautique au quotidien. Et si vous aimez créer des raccourcis multiples et diverses pour éviter des CTRL+C avec CTRL+V par exemple, amusez vous à créer des macros si la configuration ne vous fait pas peur. Vous verrez que c'est très utile et évite encore plus les douleurs musculo squelettiques.
Trackball Explorer yerine tercih edilebilecek en uygun ürün.
Pek çok trackball ürününe sahibim. Kullandıklarımın arasında en iyisi değil ama ikincisi sırada olanı. En iyisi trackman. Ancak bu ürün büyük bir topa sahip ve bu önemli bir avantaj. Farklı DPI seçeneklerine sahip olması da gayet iyi. Eğer küçük trackball kullanıcısıysanız, alışmanız biraz zaman alabilir. Bir küçük modelinde olan tuş yerleşimi bir tuşla fark ediyor, Az da olsa tasarım sorunu var. Ancak ben 2 senedir peşindeydim ve çok uygun fiyata aldım. Benim tercihimdeki en önemli sebepler ise büyük bir topa sahip olması ve bilek koyma yerinin daha yumuşak+ergonomik tasarlanmış olması.
جيدة
يعيبها حجمها كبير جدا
still my favorite trackball, now wireless!
i've used a number of trackballs before, in no particular order:- Elecom Deft Pro- Elecom Huge wired- Logitech MX Ergo- Logitech M570- Kensington Orbit wired- Kensington Expert wireless- Kensington Orbit Fusion (1 week test)but I still found myself coming back to the Elecom Huge! With such a subjective (preference) and diverse (anatomy) topic, I should share some of my own experience. I am 5'11" and prefer the finger tracking option, as I do not find myself comfortable/skilled in tracking with the thumb. The design of the Huge is just right for the size of my hand, with the base of my palm resting exactly on the padding. My thumb, index and middle fingers have enough reach to curl comfortably over the trackball and the thumb scroll+click.being wireless is best since i prefer no cabling on my desk (also running an Apple Magic Keyboard). Interference could be an issue, I'd assume Elecom went with just the RF option instead of Bluetooth due to this. the multiple options for remapping the function keys are great, absolutely helps with reducing movement between trackball and keyboard. due to the large trackball (44mm i believe), the weight is substantial to roll smoothly.Gave away the first wired Huge and replaced it with the Deft Pro, hoping to have similar experience (also for the portability), but the height of the body and the lack of a palm rest forced the wrist to retract in to a higher angle and caused fatigue in usage (i had similar experience with the Kensington Expert, although there may be others that don't rest your wrist/palm when using the Expert).before this gets in to a full fledged review of the others, i'll just close by saying that i'm still looking for a trackball as good as the Huge, but portable. it can be argued that with the right tools, it's definitely portable, but the size does pose a limitation.hope this helps!
Niezbyt gładki ruch kulki
Ogólnie urządzenie jest ok, dobrej jakości i fajnie się korzysta, ale jakość łożysk jest fatalna. Są zamontowane czerwone plastikowe łożyska które są bardzo szorstkie, nierówne i powodują że kulka chodzi ciężko i szura. Mało precyzyjna jest przez to przy krótkich ruchach. Wkrótce zamówię łożyska ceramiczne które polecają na reddicie.
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ELECOM HUGE Trackball, 2.4GHz Wireless USB, Index Finger Control, Customizable 8-Button, Large Soft Palm Rest, 52mm Ball, Windows PC Mac (M-HT1DRBK)
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